The founder of the ministry "Kicking Bear," Ray Howell and his wife Karen join Gerry on this week's program. They discuss the ministry and how it's reaching so many young people across the country. Karen also shares her side of Ray's testimony, seeing a man who felt he didn't need anything and strived to be perfect. She shares how she prayed for him to see his need for a savior and goes into the details of that reality beginning to start to sink in to who Ray was. A story that certainly can be an encouragement to anyone who has someone they love and are praying to see one day receive Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.